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      Death Knights need some love!

      Hey there,

      since Rogues, Feral Druids and Enhancement Shamans seem to got a buff a while ago, I was wondering, why Frost DKs weren't buffed as well - I mean, my DK is full geared with the 1800 Arena 1h Axes and well - I can't really do a single thing with them, the Damage is just very low (or too slow) - something should be done about that! I even tried 2h Frost, but that also failed badly. Frost seem to be merely some survival specc (well, Hungering Cold and RUN!), but not playable (guess it's the same for Combat Rogues, dunno).

      I'm tired to being forced to play as Blood DK (since my Ghoul is bugged, Unholy isn't reliable), and I'd like to play as Duelwield Frost DK so they need a little buff in my opinion. I don't know, if it's because the Death Runes or the fact, that everyone has high resilence against Elemental damage (yes, I have Spell Penetration for Blue Sockets), it's just pathetic.

      What do you guys think about it?

      EDIT: Changed topic name, since the DK overall seem to be not working well.
      Last edited by Ricana; 07-10-2011 at 02:13 AM.

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      Not only frost dks need a buff-_- ALL DKS NEED ONE! I say buff dks A.S.A.P,i mean i got a dk too and the max crit i do is 4k :X!

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      I have to agree to a point but DKs can be strong (when all CDs are pulled, for example Demonic Heart neck, Hysteria, etc) - but due to the Rune System (so, not 100% working Death Runes), they have a really huge downtime where they can just autoattack slowly.

      But at least they can do some damage (those downtimes prevent kills OFTEN for me), Frost Damage is maybe only tickling players and make them laugh (I faced today a Starter Lock, and it was pathetic, that he got me down to 40k in Frost).

      The problem is - how can that be solved. Probably with fixing the Death Rune Talents (If I remember it right, when those procc, some runes (depending on the talent) change into Death Runes. I can't remember exactly, but I believe they were aviable right now instead of starting on CD like they do here (it's been a while, so correct me if I'm wrong). They just have a too huge downtime often, and you don't get enough Runic Power in the phase before that to dump those in Death Coils/Frost Strikes/Rune Strikes (or you don't want to waste the Runic Power for Death Strikes if glyphed).

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      Quote Originally Posted by Shadowlightt View Post
      Not only frost dks need a buff-_- ALL DKS NEED ONE! I say buff dks A.S.A.P,i mean i got a dk too and the max crit i do is 4k :X!
      I have a donor dk and even i have to say the damage with it is pathetic.

      Fixing death runes will not make this any better for dks except maybe using death strike a little more.

      Something needs to be done about the gear

      This is how i see it as

      WG Dk Does around a 15k crit max good right?
      WG Pally will hit over 22k crit and thats sometimes without wings... Seems like the dk got pwned.

      A Donor Pally i have seen some hit for around 50-70k crits. and this is even without wings. soon as you throw them on its hell on earth for anything in a 50 yard radius

      How while I hate to say my Donor DK Does less Crits then selenee in PVP

      Even using a full dps spec that should if the gear was made correct. hit as hard as a pally. instead I hit around 11k - 13k max on donors and warground (This is per hit. and you can ask anyone I've killed on this server how much i hit its no lie.)

      So to test this i stacked up both my Dk Reventon and my pally Huskey in a test

      A pally full buffed can reach around 310k using correct gems
      A Dk full buffed in Blood pres will get 279k and in frost will get just below 300k and will be at 296k

      My Solution to this is to slightly buff the WG Dk Gear
      Fix death runes as Ricana stated.
      And Put Stam and Strength a little higher with dks. atleast to where we kinda stack up near the pallys and locks.
      Huskey, Morfius, Sokka, Reventon, Miragestep,Semify, and Ionicfreeze

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      DKs dont need more stamina ;O they just need more strength and a bit of fixing of the damn talents-_-(ghouls dont work death runes dont work etc) and just simply some freaking damage:P

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      More Strength, nah - think of the Blood Talents, the Corrupt Helmet and stuff and it still doesn't change the situation. It more feels, like the attacks itself are weak, that the Dk doesn't scale that well with the current gear (even Corrupt) - or maybe the attacks are just weak, since most attacks have additional Magic Damage which is decreased by resistances (so Icy Touch deals Frost Damage, Plague Strike Shadow Damage, Gargoyle Nature Damage and so on).

      Correct working Death Runes would be a good start, since they wouldn't have a that huge downtime and more attacks (so more damage).

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      I do agree that dk's do need a buff.
      My dk (which is cookie cutter) does definately not hit as hard as a paladin but my burst is fine.
      That being said, my full burst is about 5 min cd total (Not for crystals). They rely a whole lot more on cd's than other classes.
      I've tried frost and UH in pvp and they both have substantially less survivability (I guess due to heals) and still do much less dmg.
      If you rune system were fixed I'd say that would be a great step forward. Or maybe please just buff them overall.

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      As with all classes here, try pumping him full of spell pen :P Last time i was on my DK i hitted ~18ks. Not "ZOMGNOWIKILLSTARTERS2HITSMKAY" but not bad either.

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      Well, I use around 150 Spell Pen at the moment (DKs need also more Blue Sockets on their Gear!) and it's still pretty low. Maybe I should try some more, but well ...

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