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      Question [Destiny 4.3.4] Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide

      - Subtlety Rogue PvP Guide -

      < Introduction >

      I have been playing Subtlety Rogue through out the past expansions and have always had it as a main class because it's really enjoyable to play and it's a good class if you wanna gank other players in PvP.
      I thought a tutorial would be good for new / old playing rogues out there.
      (I'm not a professional by any means, but I hope you will enjoy my tutorial anyway)

      < Talents >



      The talents are optional what to pick but these are my standard talents that I use for PvP.

      I always go for 31/2/8 in Catalysm patches that are 4.3.4

      (Here is my talents that I use, but as I said they are optional so you can change whatever you want)


      http://prnt.sc/d80ar6

      < Glyphs >

      To be honest I think that these are standard glyphs for Subtlety Rogues anyway go for whatever you feel like wanna playing with they are totally optional but these are the ones I go with.


      [Prime Glyphs]


      1. Glyph of Hemorrhage - It's a neat choice against rogues because of the bleed damage.

      2. Glyph of Backstab - Backstab gives you 5 combo points back which I think is a great energy save.

      3. Glyph of Shadow Dance - Increases your duration of Shadow Dance by 2 seconds which is a one free spell.



      [Major Glyphs]


      1. Glyph of Blind - This glyph is a great choice if you don't wanna use Blind needlessly because it removes the dots from your current target.

      2. Glyph of
      Preparation - A great choice to reset your CD's - Kick, Dismantle and Smoke Bomb extreamly useful.
      3. Glyph of Garrote - Gives you extra 1.5 seconds when applied on target to dot them. USEFUL!



      [Minor Glyphs]



      1. Glyph of Blurred Sprint - Makes you available to sprint on water, is a very useful glyph to have if you wanna escape across water but can be swapped with Distract.

      2. Glyph of Poisions - Applies poisions to your weapon 50% faster it's indeed very useful!

      3. Glyph of Safe Fall - (Not needed) but helps you take less damage when falling down from things.


      < Poisions >

      I don't wanna talk too much about Poisons, but although I wanna tell you what I use.
      (Again it's totally up to you what you choose)

      Main-hand - Instant Poision
      Off-hand - Mind-Numbing
      Thrown - Crippling Poision


      < Enchants >

      Head - 60 Agility and 35 Resillience
      Shoulders - 50 Agiility and 25 Resillience
      Chest - 20 Stats, 75 Stamina or 40 Resillience. I choose the 40 Resillience.
      Bracer - 65 Crit
      Hands - 65 Mastery or the extra free 400 agi from Engineering
      Legs - 145 Stamina + 55 Agility
      Boots - 25 Agility + Minor Movement Speed
      Weapon 1 (Main-Hand) You wanna choose Landslide
      Weapon 2 (Off-Hand) You wanna choose Pyrium Weapon Chain



      < Gems >


      I know alot of players on WM stack full agi in all sockets which I do too.
      But there is something else you can put in the 20 agi sockets which is;
      1. 25 Agility + Crit
      2. 25 Agility + Resillence
      3.
      Agility + Hit rating


      ( I wouldn't recommend using option 3 because you can reforge your gear with hit to get hit cap which is 5.00)


      < Stat Priority >


      This is how your Stat Priority should be but it's of course optional;
      5.00 Hit Rating (CAP)
      20/20 Expertise (Optional, also not sure if it's working on WM)
      Crit > Haste > Mastery
      (There is not really a good reason for rogues to take mastery but take it if you feel like it)

      (If expertise works on WM, it's a great stat to go for because your Kidney/Gouge can be the one spell that saves your life)


      < Rotations >

      The rotations varies alot about who your target is.
      A good thing to remember is that you should save your Energy, and not spend it all on Backstab.
      Always remember to use Premeditation and Slice and Dice before opening because it causes your attack speed to increase by 49%.

      (Try to figure out how you open on different target example at Duel Zone or Gurubashi)


      < Macros >


      Makes you use Preparation, cloak of Shadows and Vanish at the same time or by 2 clicks.

      #showtooltip
      /cast preparation
      /cast Cloak of Shadows
      /cast [nostealth,combat] Vanish


      This macro makes you Evasion and Combat Readiness at the same time.

      #showtooltip
      /castsequence reset=178 Evasion, Combat Readiness


      Makes you sap the nearest target

      #showtooltip sap
      /stopattack
      /console targetNearestDistance 10.000000
      /targetenemy
      /console targetNearestDistance 41.000000
      /cast sap


      A classic survival macro that makes you use Cloak of Shadows and Vanish

      #showicon Vanish
      /cast Cloak of Shadows
      /cast Vanish


      Makes you cast Thrown to gather 1 combo and then Deadly Throw that slows the target

      #showtooltip Deadly Throw
      /cast Deadly Throw
      /cast !throw



      This macro just Kidney Shot the target but can be used on focus by shift too.

      #showtooltip Kidney Shot
      /startattack
      /cast [nomod,stance:0/3] Kidney shot
      /castsequence [mod:shift,stance:0/3,@focus, exists] reset=20 Redirect, Kidney Shot


      Makes you unable to cancel stealth

      #showtooltip Stealth
      /cast [nomodifier] !Stealth


      There is probably a bunch of other macros for rogues but these are the ones I have


      Anyways this is all I got for you I hope you can use it.
      Last edited by Zlac; 11-16-2016 at 07:31 PM.

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      http://forum.monster-wow.com/index.p...deathwing-434/

      You think you're clever for changing & paraphrasing from another guide?
      Last edited by Trikky; 11-16-2016 at 11:26 PM.

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      I was about to say good or bad guide or something but the only reason u made this guide, is not to help someone but for ur GM app.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Trikky View Post
      http://forum.monster-wow.com/index.p...deathwing-434/

      You think you're clever for changing & paraphrasing from another guide?
      I really love you some days trikky on how you bust people on when they make guides <3

      Anyways to the topic of this guide i say Boo as you copy and pasted it (proof from Trikky's link) and pretty much in my opinion all you need is to stun and burst as a rogue(here at least) and maybe pull a stillkill and eat from time to time...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Moonkinz View Post
      I really love you some days trikky on how you bust people on when they make guides <3

      Anyways to the topic of this guide i say Boo as you copy and pasted it (proof from Trikky's link) and pretty much in my opinion all you need is to stun and burst as a rogue(here at least) and maybe pull a stillkill and eat from time to time...
      I dont really see what your problem with me everytime I make a post or what so ever. I do agree to the similar guide but I didn't wanna copy it so i changed the words into my own.

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      Worst guide ever

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      Main-hand - Instant Poision
      Off-hand - Mind-Numbing
      Thrown - Crippling Poision
      It's pvp or pve guide?
      A good thing to remember is that you should save your Energy, and not spend it all on Backstab.
      Troll guide.
      I would suggest you, to read the guide u are gonna copy-paste first.

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      At least a helpful guide for rogue beginners.

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      maybe you should read a rogue guide before writing one

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